The first food52 cookbook is coming together swiftly (there's even an Amazon page
Let us know your thoughts in the comments section below by end-of-day this Friday, November 19th, and stay tuned as we throw more decisions your way. Mark your calendars too: the book hits the streets June 14, 2011!
The subtitle:
THE FOOD52 COOKBOOK
125 Winning Recipes from the Best Home Cooks
Or
THE FOOD52 COOKBOOK
125 Winning Recipes from Exceptional Home Cooks
And the reading line:
"A New Kind of Community Cookbook"
Or
"52 weeks of recipe contests. X entries. X votes. 1,300 hours in the test kitchen."
So what do you think? Feel free to toss around other ideas too -- this is your cookbook, after all.
70 Comments on Food52 Cookbook Update:
What about a middle ground, like:
A new kind of community cookbook built from 52 weeks of recipe contests, sharing and cooking....
I like the first subtitle and the first reading line.
Wow A&M--you asked for feedback and now you've got it! Your publisher might be feeling there are too many cooks in this cookbook kitchen right about now. Nevertheless, I think it's great you asked the Food52 community for their opinions--just shows how innovative and cool this crowd-sourcing concept to cooking and cookbookery is!
My 2 cents (or teaspoons): I would buy a book that touted "125 exceptional recipes from today's home cooks" because great recipes are hard to find and any book that has put in the due diligence of testing, re-testing, getting others to test, and tasting and getting feedback from people who cook and eat is a real gem. There are ordinary recipes out there in abundance and bad/flawed ones out there in greater abundance; Food 52 is about the standouts; the exceptions to the norm; the quality of product you get when you go through this vigorous process of asking cooks for their 'best' recipes and then putting them to the test and letting the cook community decide. The reading line would then support that promise: "52 weeks of recipe contests. X entries. X votes. 1,300 hours in the test kitchen."
I agree!
What a thoughtful group. Kaybe -- I like devoted, or maybe dedicated -- nice! The descriptor is a difficult issue. For me, the thing that makes Food52 special is that no credentials are required to post a recipe or participate in rating them. Some people are accomplished home or even professional chefs, some are casual, occasional home cooks. Food52 levels the playing field, and that really appeals to me. There's no snobbism about past experience or platform -- the recipes speak for themselves and we decide together which are most loved. But there also are plenty of hidden gems that might not rise up as winners but which provide very good food for thought and for the table. This is what I was trying to get at with "ordinary" but perhaps it's not the right word to capture the concept that Food52 is here for anyone to participate. No barrier to entry. How to capture that? True, AntoniaJames, whatever we have to say here, in the end Amanda and Merrill and the good folks at Harper Collins will throw it all into the blender and out of it will come something delicious. Or perhaps, in the spirit of Food52, they will narrow the choices down to 2 and we will vote in the winner!
I like this discussion. I'm with the others who do not think the cooks whose recipes were selected by A&M and then voted best by the community are "ordinary" cooks. As one of them, I certainly don't want to be described that way on the front of a hard cover book. I worry a bit that "home cook" will drive people away from the book, given the enormous number of not-even-ordinary recipes out there created and/or published by home cooks. I like the words "extraordinary" and "exceptional" to describe the community, the cooks and/or the recipes. I like the word "new" to describe the community, but there is nothing new about what kind of cook I am. I like the word "winning" because it doesn't just mean, in this day and age, contest winners. This seems like the kind of naming project where the editors (of food52 and of Harper Collins) should do what we've heard about other editors of cookbooks doing, that is, to put all the great words up on a wall and move them around until they get the best combination. ;o)
Exceptional preferred to Best. Also, what about something like....
"Bringing you the benefits of too many cooks in the kitchen"
"A New Kind of Community...A New Kind of Cook".
I prefer "Exceptional" to "Best" for the subtitle and "Community Cookbook" for the reading line. Given the other comments, though, how about moving "Exceptional" to modify the recipes instead of the cooks to preserve that homespun feel that others have talked about: "125 Exceptional Recipes from Today's Home Cooks." And on the reading line, is it more important to focus on the newness of the community or the newness of the type of cookbook? Although I think both are fantastic, the enduring community that this site has created is the most innovative and exciting part of the process. So maybe something along the lines of, "An Innovative Cookbook from a New Kind of Community." So exciting!
I come down on the side of "a new kind of community cookbook." I think that defines us well. I lean toward exceptional recipes from home cooks -- not "ordinary" home cooks, as I don't think we're exactly "ordinary" in that regard, but I hesitate to call us "best" or "exceptional." Devoted home cooks, maybe.
I understand all viewpoints here and I'll just add that after perusing the 52 winners from the first 52 weeks, there just is no getting around the fact that there is nothing ordinary about them. These are thoughtful and creative people whose passion and talent sings loud and clear. That, in my opinion, is what makes this community appealing and I think to all levels of cooks. It's certainly not exclusionary to deem something "extraordinary" and it's a community of wonderful people that I've learned a lot from.
125 Winning Recipes from Exceptional Home Cooks; 52 weeks of recipe contests. X entries. X votes. 1,300 hours in the test kitchen
I'll chime in to say that I reacted poorly to "exceptional" and "best." The whole point of food52, or at least I thought it the whole point, is that the contributors represent everyone -- the ordinary -- not those who would be classified as extraordinary or best. I'd like to see more of a "just like me" feel to it.
How about this:
THE FOOD52.COOKBOOK
125 Extraordinary Recipes from Ordinary Home Cooks
And the reading line:
The community-grown cookbook that has grown (spawned?) a community of its own
OR
Join us at the table for a new kind of potluck
Okay, this is a really good point. I love what you have to say, JSCooks. I also love how much I am always learning and growing. This commnity helps me become a better cook everyday.
The word potluck is not an elegant word but it is very homey!
Exceptional Home Cooks and 52 weeks of recipe contests. X entries. X votes. 1,300 hours in the test kitchen (or monkeymom's suggestion).
Oh, dear God, please, don't. Well, maybe it's not all that bad, but to me, "125 Winning Recipes from the Best Home Cooks" and "125 Winning Recipes from Exceptional Home Cooks" sound like offspring publications of "Taste of Home," as does "52 weeks of recipe contests. . .1,300 hours in the test kitchen." It doesn't say anything about the sophistication and the "newness" (not novelty) of these recipes, even though they're made by everyday people who cook at home.
But I do like "A New Kind of Community Cookbook." If that could be combined with "52 weeks of winning recipes," with less emphasis on the contests, I'd be happy.
I also like chopchop's "food52.community" idea, too.
This'll teach you to ask for our opinions, won't it. Wonder what would happen if you asked us about thick or thin crust pizza. . .
This is the proverbial can of worms!
Another vote for "The Food 52 Cookbook and 125 Winning Recipes from Exceptional Cooks " The reading line could have both choice under it .
More thoughts: I think our book would appeal to a wider audience if the words "best" and "exceptional", to describe the cooks, were omitted all together. It could say something like: "125 Winning Recipes from Home Cooks Around the World." After all, food52 is about sourcing the best recipes, not the best cooks, and something I remember from way back when the site started, "the best recipes come from home cooks." Home cooks are just regular people, who happen to like cooking, and have some really good recipes to share.
Also, the more I look at the 1st reading line, the more I don't like it. I understand you're going for the "community cookbook" association of, like, a Women's Auxiliary or a Junior League community cookbook, or something. But now all I can picture is the Stepford Wives Community Cookbook. Can you tell I've been over-thinking this? Whatever you do, I know I will love this book.
Ditto
Could your graphic designer create a title (with distinctive fonts, etc) that would convey
food52.community cookbook? Food52.com would be a strong typeface/font style/bold color. The trailing characters, "munity," would be softer. Short and to the point, embracing the internet (dot com) roots and the community of culinary collaborators. Not sure "The" is needed in the title.
ooo... I agree, and I'd love to be the one help design it!
yes, this sounds really cool!
I really like "Exceptional Home Cooks" and "A New Kind of Community Cookbook." They capture the spirit of food52.
Agreed!
Agreed, as well!
I do really like monkeymom's suggestion as opposed to either of the proposed lines, however, I think that dymnymo's point about food52 being a new space for a timeless community of homecooks, rather than a new community is important to convey. Although, I guess the line says it's a new kind of community cookbook, not a new kind of community. Hmmmmm.
I really like the phrase "A New Kind of Community Cookbook", because this web-site and your book defines what a community should be. People who have things in common, and also share things that come from a special place inside of them. It is what communities should be.
I actually am not really thrilled with either subtitle. Labeling these cooks as the "best" is too subjective. There are a lot of us out here who are awfully good also. "Exceptional" is better, but really, I still keep thinking that the community is the important part of this. I have looked upon this website as "ordinary" Joes (and Josephines) who love to cook, which for us, is a way to show our love for cooking as well as love to show our love to and for others.
I really like the phrase "A New Kind of Community Cookbook", because this web-site and your book defines what a community should be. People who have things in common, and also share things that come from a special place inside of them. It is what communities should be.
I actually am not really thrilled with either subtitle. Labeling these cooks as the "best" is too subjective. There are a lot of us out here who are awfully good also. "Exceptional" is better, but really, I still keep thinking that the community is the important part of this. I have looked upon this website as "ordinary" Joes (and Josephines) who love to cook, which for us, is a way to show our love for cooking as well as love to show our love to and for others.
I really like the phrase "A New Kind of Community Cookbook", because this web-site and your book defines what a community should be. People who have things in common, and also share things that come from a special place inside of them. It is what communities should be.
I actually am not really thrilled with either subtitle. Labeling these cooks as the "best" is too subjective. There are a lot of us out here who are awfully good also. "Exceptional" is better, but really, I still keep thinking that the community is the important part of this. I have looked upon this website as "ordinary" Joes (and Josephines) who love to cook, which for us, is a way to show our love for cooking as well as love to show our love to and for others.
I really like exceptional/ 'community. Best cooks is a little judgmental & will undoubtedly offend those who think they are the 'best' cooks, but didn't come along in time. I also like 52/x/x/. I'd be happy to help you count. This is so exciting.
Exceptional cooks/Community cookbook. But I also think you should work in the 52 weeks, X, X, etc. line in the introduction, as well. Very exciting!
I've just re-read everyone's comments and don't know what to think/suggest! Everyone seems to have good points. Guess it is up to the authors. After all, it is their cookbook and I have great faith in A & M.
I really like the phrase "A New Kind of Community Cookbook", because this web-site and your book defines what a community should be. People who have things in common, and also share things that come from a special place inside of them. It is what communities should be.
I actually am not really thrilled with either subtitle. Labeling these cooks as the "best" is too subjective. There are a lot of us out here who are awfully good also. "Exceptional" is better, but really, I still keep thinking that the community is the important part of this. I have looked upon this website as "ordinary" Joes (and Josephines) who love to cook, which for us, is a way to show our love for cooking as well as love to show our love to and for others.
I really like the phrase "A New Kind of Community Cookbook", because this web-site and your book defines what a community should be. People who have things in common, and also share things that come from a special place inside of them. It is what communities should be.
I actually am not really thrilled with either subtitle. Labeling these cooks as the "best" is too subjective. There are a lot of us out here who are awfully good also. "Exceptional" is better, but really, I still keep thinking that the community is the important part of this. I have looked upon this website as "ordinary" Joes (and Josephines) who love to cook, which for us, is a way to show our love for cooking as well as love to show our love to and for others.
I really like the phrase "A New Kind of Community Cookbook", because this web-site and your book defines what a community should be. People who have things in common, and also share things that come from a special place inside of them. It is what communities should be.
I actually am not really thrilled with either subtitle. Labeling these cooks as the "best" is too subjective. There are a lot of us out here who are awfully good also. "Exceptional" is better, but really, I still keep thinking that the community is the important part of this. I have looked upon this website as "ordinary" Joes (and Josephines) who love to cook, which for us, is a way to show our love for cooking as well as love to show our love to and for others.
I like "Exceptional," Because "Best" is subjective... and "52 weeks of recipe contests. X entries. X votes. 1,300 hours in the test kitchen."
I like "exceptional." And am leaning more in the direction of monkeymom's suggested reading line. The 2 proposed lines didn't grab me.
I much prefer "exceptional" (or "extraordinary" as suggested by TiggyBee). And I simply love monkeymom's suggestion of ""Sourced from the world. Tested in our kitchens. 52 weeks of the best seasonal eating," which to my mind says so much more, without overdoing it, than either of the proposals. ;o)
I like the word "extraordinary". How about "52 weeks of recipes from our community of extraordinary international home cooks"?... Do we have a Title?
Personally, I like "Exceptional" and "community cookbook," because I think it preserves the community feel of food52. I worry that even though it has a Pillsbury bakeoff feel to it that "winning recipes" might sell more cookbooks, though. Could it appeal to novice cooks who feel like they need to *know* without guessing that the food52 book is a better choice than the other book they're considering? After all, it says right on the cover than the recipes are winners. I bring this up only because while I might make one choice, I have family members who would definitely go the "winner" route.
Exceptional home cooks and a 'New Kind' are my choices. Although, I think Extraordinary home cooks has a nice ring to it.
I also like the 'exceptional' line. However, I don't really like either of the two reading lines. The first is too vague, doesn't convey enough to interest. The second is too specific - numbers can be overwhelming. How about something that gives a feeling for how the book is formatted: "Sourced from the world. Tested in our kitchens. 52 weeks of the best seasonal eating."
ohhhh, I like that!
I love it.
Really great suggestion, monkeymom!! So excited for the book!
I vote for "exceptional" and "A NEW KIND OF COMMUNITY COOKBOOK" . I think "community cookbook" drives home the point that these are recipes for regular people.
I like "exceptional" and the Community Cookbook Reading Line... SO exciting!!!
I also prefer "THE FOOD52 COOKBOOK - 125 Winning Recipes from Exceptional Home Cooks" I think that it sounds more powerful than the alternative title. I think the subtitle should be "125 Winning Recipes from Exceptional Home Cooks" rather that either of the other subtitles. The one that starts "52 weeks, ...etc" is okay and is informational . The "new kind of community cookbook..." is not what we are. Isn't the point of the book that the ageless community of home cooks is a exciting, ongoing tradition...not something new?
Sorry, I mixed up subtitles and reading lines . What is the title?
Is the art work on the cover going to be the pics like the "We Did It!" Is that the title?
This is from your friendly editors at Food52.
added about 1 year agoThe cover art is still in the works -- we'll be sure to keep you all updated! For now, we're just asking for your thoughts on possible subtitles (the first two listed above) and reading lines (the second two).
I like "Exceptional" better than "The Best", it seems less exclusionary and more suitable for the average cooking enthusiast that is aiming to try new things and improve their repertoire.
I also think "A New Kind of Community Cookbook" is better as it leaves the door open to future versions whereas "52 weeks of recipe contests. X entries. X votes. 1,300 hours in the test kitchen." sounds like a one time thing.
I like how the first subtitle rolls off the tongue better, and “best” conveys a more homespun feel than “exceptional.” And I like the first reading line best. The second reading line is a mouthful, but it really conveys the scope of the food52 project. You should definitely stick that somewhere in the book.
Ditto - agree 100%.
I agree with @lastnightsdinner though what I sort of expected as a choice was:
A year in the life of TK# of home cooks
or some such. Very excited for this cookbook's arrival.
Exceptional cooks/new kind of community for me!
Amanda is a co-founder of Food52.
added about 1 year agoBy the way, those "X"s on the second reading line will be filled in with actual numbers -- we still need to count all the entries and votes!
Me too - exceptional cooks / new kind of community. June 14th is my birthday - and also it is flag day! I am sure that is why you chose that date :-)
I agree with what everyone has said so far. "Exceptional", and "a new kind of community cookbook." for sure! So excited!!!!!
I prefer exceptional and "a new kind of community cookbook."
I have been particularly struck by the new form of this community, with its origins on the internet. To that extent I think this new community assumes the level of an actual phenomenon. I wonder whether that concept can be conveyed more directly or vividly in a proposed subtitle?
I agree with everyone. The first reading line in particular makes me want to open the book and find out more. I can't wait to see it either!
I'm with LND. And can I just say - SQUEEEEEE!
Yes yes yes. Agree with LND and so excited!!
I prefer ""THE FOOD52 COOKBOOK - 125 Winning Recipes from Exceptional Home Cooks" and "A New Kind of Community Cookbook" for the reading line.
Also, !!!!!!! I can't wait to see it.
@lastnightsdinner ditto to everything you said.
I also like the addition of exceptional to the subtitle along with the first reading line. The second one is too wordy.
I didn't participate in the first batch of contests, but assuming I am allowed to comment, I would go with the "Exceptional homecooks": the other is not as strong.
As for the reading line, I would go with "a new kind of community book". The alternative is too wordy.
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